The Princes in the Tower: 7 arguments that suggest it was Richard wot done it

The fate of the Princes in the Tower will probably never be definitively answered

Richard III and the fate of the princes in the tower.  It’s a debate that is unlikely to be resolved to satisfaction.

Hard evidence does not exist.  We don’t even know for a fact that Edward V and his brother Richard were murdered – let alone at whose hand they met their fate.

But it isn’t true that we know nothing.  And what we do have – circumstantial thought it may be – strongly suggests the blame must be laid at Richard’s door.

Here are just seven reasons why.

1. You don’t need to rely on Tudor sources to conclude that Richard’s probably guilty

“Richard’s reputation has been blackened by Tudor propaganda.”  It’s a statement we often hear in this debate and is a relatively superficial analysis.   It prevents each source being assessed for its individual merit.  But it ain’t an argument I’m gonna win with one article.

As luck would have it, I don’t need to.  The evidence that points to Richard’s guilt can be found in accounts contemporaneous to his reign.  Thanks to the writings of Dominic Mancini and the 3rd continuation of the Croyland Chronicle we have a relatively robust understanding of the chain of events in 1483. 

Mancini was an Italian visiting London.  He had access to a source close to the Princes and was aware of what information was being put about the capital.  We would be unwise to take every word he writes as fact.  But the chain of events can be verified by other sources, even though none could have read Mancini’s work.  His account lingered in a French library until it was discovered in 1934.

Croyland was almost certainly a state official, though not part of Richard’s inner-circle. Technically it was written in the first few months of Henry VII’s reign.  However, it was written too early to be ‘infected’ by ‘Tudor propaganda’.  Crucially, it contains information that Henry VII would not have wanted preserved.  To dismiss it as a ‘Tudor spin’ would be absurd.

2. Richard killed the Princes most loyal supporters before declaring himself King

Richard’s army of modern-day supporters often argue that Richard’s claim to the crown – based on the supposed illegitimacy of the princes – was widely accepted by the ‘three estates’ of the realm.  But surely the fact that Richard had just killed everyone that opposed him and had armies stationed outside London had something to do with that?

Without following due legal process, Richard had William Hastings, a close supporter of Edward IV murdered.  He killed – without trial – the Princes’ uncle, Earl Rivers and their half-brother Richard Grey.  The message was clear.  Resistance to Richard would be met with fatal force.

Richard declared his nephews illegitimate. But did people really believe him?

3. The illegitimacy of the Princes was not accepted

Ricardians also argue that Richard had no motive to have the Princes killed.  He had declared them illegitimate and thus they were no threat to him.  But Croyland is clear that plots were forming to free them.  Clearly, the story hadn’t stuck.  Besides, Richard had made them illegitimate by Act of Parliament.  Parliament could simply reverse that decision.

4. Richard had the Princes in a high-security prison

Mancini tells us that “all the attendants who had waited upon the King [Edward V] were debarred access to him.  He and his brother were withdrawn into the inner departments of the Tower proper, and day by day began to be seen more rarely behind the bars and windows, till at length they ceased to appear altogether.” 

While the Tower of London was a royal residence and not just a prison, the boys were kept to a designated area.  After a certain point they were not permitted to roam

5. Richard dismissed all the Princes’ attendants and had them guarded by loyal men

Croyland tells us that the Princes were put in the custody of ‘certain persons appointed to that purpose.’  They would have been men Richard trusted greatly.

Occasionally people speculate that these men were bribed by another.  But what could they have offered?  What could possibly outweigh the benefits to be had from service to the King?  And surely these men knew that if they let something happen to the Princes on anyone’s orders but Richard’s they would answer for it with their heads.

6. Richard never accused anyone else of killing the Princes

Richard had the boys in a high security prison.  Could anyone – even Buckingham – really have gained access?  If they had, Richard would have known about it straight away.  Would he really have kept quiet?  After all, it would have been a stroke of luck.  He could make it clear the boys were dead and pin the murder on someone else.  It’s telling that he never did.

7. Richard did not ‘produce’ the boys when doing so would have saved his reign

Some argue that the Princes were never killed at all.  I would love to believe that, but it seems unlikely.

In 1485, Richard III faced a great threat from a strange and unlikely coalition.  The remnants of Lancaster teamed up with the keenest supporters of Edward IV to topple Richard.  If Richard had been able to prove that the boys were still alive, it would have split his opposition down the middle. It might even have united all Yorkist support under him.

But he didn’t.  Because they were almost certainly dead.

The Tower of London was a royal residence, not just a prison. But Richard had the boys confined to inner apartments where they could not be seen

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Everything I’ve said here is circumstantial.  It’s not categorical proof and I accept that.  Maybe it wouldn’t stand up in court.  But we’re not lawyers.  This isn’t a trial.  As Alison Weir says, historians don’t convict beyond all reasonable doubt.  They look at the evidence we have and conclude what is most likely to have happened.

So much passion surrounds this debate and it is largely counter-productive.  I have no partisan bias against Richard.  If new evidence comes to light I would do my best to review it with an open mind.

What puzzles me is that multitudes of Royal History Geeks feel the need to explain away the chain of events that I have outlined above.  That Richard ordered the death of the Princes is not the only interpretation of the events of 1483.  But surely it is the most likely?  I worry that a pre-conceived idea of Richard’s character prevents people from accepting evidence for what it is.  This is a dangerous way of doing history.  We know so little about the hearts and minds of the people we study.

Henry VII is a king I really admire.  I believe he made important shifts in the structures of government which helped pave the way for Parliamentary democracy (which is not to suggest that Henry was in any way a democrat himself).  I also think that there is evidence to suggest his character was considerably less blood thirsty than kings that came before or after him.

But I must accept that overwhelming circumstantial evidence suggests that he framed and judicially murdered Edward, Earl of Warwick.  The young man had spent much of his life in prison and was probably what we would today consider a vulnerable adult.  Whatever Henry’s dynastic reasons for his actions, this was a terrible crime.

Nevertheless, this doesn’t take away from Henry’s achievements as king.  Nor does Edward IV’s murder of the old, virtuous and mentally unstable Henry VI diminish his legacy.  He showed great skill in managing the nobility and restored order to England.  It does make them both three-dimensional characters that need to be studied and analysed.  Admired and respected, but never worshipped and revered.

By taking the same approach with Richard, we have a chance to truly redeem his reputation.  To rescue him from both his status as unreconstructed monster and revered cult figure.  He can finally emerge as the bearer of the broken humanity we all share and the wielder of skills and qualities that deserve to be remembered.

While we’re talking about the Tower of London, we must remember that our wonderful Royal palaces and historical landmarks have taken a real hit during the lockdown. Let’s make sure we get visiting as soon as we’re allowed, to show them our support. Keep an eye on the Historic Royal Palaces website as I’m sure they’ll let us know when doors are open again.

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6 things to remember when debating York vs Lancaster

Being a Royal History Geek has its challenges.  Our animated interest in the affairs of yesteryear can raise more than the occasional eyebrow among our friends and family.  The Wars of the Roses, however, is one topic that people not quite as super-cool as us know a little bit about.  Or at least, they think they do. 

It’s not uncommon for the debate around who had the better claim to the throne – York or Lancaster – to come up in the mainstream media, at school or university and even down the pub.

So, next time you find yourself debating the age-old question, here’s six facts it’s worth remembering.

1. The Lancastrians were the senior heirs male of Edward III

Through John of Gaunt, Lancastrians were the heirs-male to Edward III

Richard II had the undisputed right to succeed Edward III in 1377.  But once you get rid of him, the Lancastrian kings were the senior heirs male to Edward III.  That means their line passed father to son to grandson, great-grandson etc in much the same way that the surname tends to.  If you believed people in the 14th and 15th century preferred male-only succession, Lancaster are the clear winners

2. York were the senior heirs general of Edward III

Through Lionel of Antwerp, the Yorks were the heirs-general to Edward III

The house of York descended from Edward III’s second surviving son, Lionel of Antwerp.  But the line passed through daughters twice before getting to Richard, Duke of York.  If you believed that 14th/15th century folk were open to women inheriting the crown – or transmit their claim to their sons – then York come out on top.

3. Edward I may have permitted succession through the female line

Edward I may have gathered his family to read out the line of succession

Although details are a bit sketchy, it looks as if Edward I (1272-1307) was open to female succession.  He seems to have told his family that the crown should pass first to his sons and their descendants, thereafter to his daughters and their descendants.  This is good news for the Yorkist claim.

4. Edward III entailed succession through the male only line

Edward III imitated the trend of landowners and entailed the crown in the male line

In about 1377, Edward III left a document suggesting that descent should only be in the male-line.  This is a coup for the Lancastrians.  It specifically names the Duke of Lancaster and his son before the Mortimers (ancestors of the Yorks).  But even more importantly, it ties into a wider trend.  In the late 1300s, landowners were trying to entail their estates to male-heir only.   Edward III’s decision to do the same with the crown may have been indicative of attitudes at the time.

5. Richard II may have nominated Mortimer as his heir

Richard II created confusion around who is heir was

According to the Eulogium Historium, Richard II recognised Mortimer as his heir in the parliament of 1385 or 1386.  Mortimer was the grandson of Lionel of Antwerp, second son of Edward III.  If true, this is good news for Yorkists.  Richard, Duke of York, was Mortimer’s grandson.  But historians debate whether it really happened.  The official record doesn’t mention it. 

6. No one cared about any of this in 1460 or 1461

28,000 men lost their lives at the battle of Towton

No one really cared whether the Duke of York or Henry VI had the best hereditary claim from Edward III.  Not even Richard himself really.  Lancaster were the established dynasty.  Henry VI was an anointed King and the son of a great man, Henry V.  The nobility was reluctant to remove Henry, despite his disastrous reign. 

It was ultimately the gentry that deserted Lancaster and backed Edward IV at the battle of Towton in 1461.  None of them did so because of the ’superiority’ of the Yorkist claim.  They, even more than the nobility, needed stability to return to England.  They knew that Henry VI was effectively out the picture.  Their choice was a full-blooded Plantagenet like Edward of York or a French woman who had gained a reputation for savagery.

28,000 men lost their life at Towton.  Not a single one did so to defend constitutional purity.

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Lockdown must-reads #7: Katherine Swynford by Alison Weir

Let’s be honest: lockdown sucks!  But it does mean there’s more time for reading.  Over the next couple of weeks, I will review 10 books which all Royal History Geeks should add to their reading list.

Getting into the head of today’s public figures is tough enough.  You might well have a strong opinion about the Duchess of Cornwall or Cherie Blair only to meet them and be utterly surprised.

So attempting to reconstruct the life of an obscure 14th century woman is an ambitious challenge.  Especially when source material is scant and what we do have is highly biased.

Thankfully, it’s a challenge that Alison Weir rises to with robust research and inspired imagination.

Katherine Swynford: the story of John of Gaunt and his scandalous duchess’ is the kind of masterpiece that demonstrates exactly why Weir is one of the world’s best-selling historians.  The author pieces together fragments of source material and weaves them into the tapestry of history.  With Weir’s gift of empathy, the reader is left with little doubt as to why Katherine was a woman who captured the heart of a prince and aroused the suspicions of a nation.

The book begins with Sywnford’s arrival in England at around the age of two.  It follows her early life and first marriage.  It shows how the life of Katherine and her husband Hugh became entangled with the Lancastrian court.

As the book’s sub-heading suggests, the narrative also explores the story of John of Gaunt.  By using sources such as Chaucer’s poetry, Weir paints a picture of Gaunt’s first marriage to Blanche of Lancaster.  She brings to life the grief he almost certainly felt at her untimely death.

Gaunt and Swynford’s relationship almost certainly begins after the couple are respectively widowed.  Gaunt, however, had embarked on a second marriage.  The author uses compelling evidence to disprove later claims that their children were conceived in ‘double adultery.’  Using records of grants made to Katherine from John, the author credible speculates as to the date of birth of each of the four Beaufort children, while recognising the limitations of the exercise.

This book is not a photograph.  It’s an artist’s impression.  And Alison Weir is quite the painter.  By detailing what we know of Kettlethorpe manor and great houses Katherine lived in we get a sense as to what daily life might have looked like.  No sources mention her intellect or character.  But Weir shrewdly deduces that her appointment as governess to the Lancastrian princesses suggests she was both clever and sophisticated.  Above all else, the author rescues Katherine from the reputation dished upon her by monkish chroniclers.

Some commentators have been critical of this presentation of history.  If the facts of what we know of someone’s life can fit on the back cover, is it appropriate to attempt a full biography?  But I defy anyone to read this work and not deem it a useful exercise. 

Intelligent speculation may have its limits.  But with Weir’s gifts of empathy, her thorough research and knowledge of the era, one of history’s most elusive figures can finally step into the spotlight and enjoy a measure of the attention she deserves.

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Lockdown must-reads #6: The Hollow Crown by Dan Jones

Let’s be honest: lockdown sucks!  But it does mean there’s more time for reading.  Over the next couple of weeks, I will review 10 books which all Royal History Geeks should add to their reading list.

For many years ‘The Wars of the Roses’ were confined to a paragraph or two in the introduction to Tudor history books.   We, the readers, had to endure just a few lines about random battles, murderous uncles and cooky Plantagenet cousins.  If we did, we knew we’d be treated to tales of religious reform, six wives and female succession.

But we didn’t know what we were missing.  Under the skilful craftmanship of Dan Jones, this series of bloody conflicts finally take their place in the spotlight.

The 370-page publication spans a 45-year time period and touches on the reigns on five kings.  But despite the breadth of the topic, Jones paints a vivid and detailed picture of the breakdown of England’s political system and the lust for power that followed it.

The book begins with the marriage of Henry VI’s parents.  By beginning the narrative here rather than an earlier point in history, Jones is implicitly nailing his colours to the mast.  Committed to the Tudor perspective that the conflicts have their origins in the downfall of Richard II?   You’re going to disappointed.  Sympathetic to the Whig notion that Edward III doomed his descendants to disaster?   Look away now.  Like recent scholarship, Jones roots the cause of conflict squarely in the ineffectual kingship of the last Lancastrian ruler.

As Henry grows, his inability to perform even the most basic facet of Kingship becomes increasingly obvious.  For the best part of two decades the political establishments attempts to create a mechanism for governing England without a functioning monarch.  But in the run up to 1450 it all came crumbling down 

The 1450s is a decade of battles, high politics and low humanity.  With vivid storytelling the author brings them to life.  Characters like Margaret of Anjou, Richard of York and a succession of Somerset Dukes become real to us.  Jones correctly notes that it is not until York puts his hand on the throne and claims the crown in 1460, that the Wars of the Roses can truly be called a dynastic conflict. 

The book bounces through the early years of Yorkist rule under Edward IV.  Like most accounts of the era, it focuses on his unpopular marriage to Elizabeth Wydeville, which in turn leads to a rebellion by Warwick and the second phases of the wars.  The rest of Edward’s reign is centred on the fallout with his brother, Clarence.  Eventually we follow the dramatic events of Edwards’s death, the brief succession of his son and Gloucester’s usurpation of the throne as Richard III.  The author does well not to dwell on the fate of the princes in the tower.  As Alison Weir has demonstrated, that topic requires a book of its own.  (But let’s be honest, we all now Richard did it.)

In events familiar to Royal History Geeks, Henry VII ultimately wins the crown at Bosworth field.  He holds the throne for almost 25 years and is succeeded by his son.  But it is years before he is free from the threats of pretenders.

Like its predecessor, ‘The Plantagenets’, the book is ambitious in its scale.  As a result, it cannot focus on any of either Edward IV or Henry VII’s reign in detail.  But it does provide a cohesive overview that is essential for anyone looking to study either king in greater depth. 

The book is lively and well crafted.  Some of the sentences are almost poetic.  It’s clear from the first few pages that Jones has grown as a writer since 2012’s ‘The Plantagenets’.  (This may sound a little patronising.  Let me be clear: I would give my right arm to be able to write a book as good as the Plantagenets.)

But perhaps the greatest achievement of this book is the way it makes ‘recent’ and innovative scholarship accessible.  In the last three decades, historians such as John Watts and Christine Carpenter have boldly attempted to reconstruct the Kingship of Henry VI.  They drive home its fundamental inadequacy from its inception.  Jones’s work is the first attempt I have come across to draw on this scholarship and present it in the popular genre. 

Since the discovery of Richard III’s remains, interest in the Wars of the Roses has reached fever pitch.  Source material is scant and scholarship is complicated.  But through well-written and beautifully crafted accounts like this, the public can access the latest thinking, correct misconceptions that arise from fiction and get a grip on one of England’s most intriguing sagas.  Dan Jones sets the standard.  If only more would rise to it.

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Lockdown must-reads #1: The House of Beaufort by Nathen Amin

Let’s be honest: lockdown sucks!  But it does mean there’s more time for reading.  Over the next couple of weeks, I will review 10 books which all Royal History Geeks should add to their reading list.

It’s the book I’d always wanted to write.  But I’m glad I didn’t.  Charting the choppy course of the Beaufort dynasty over three generations is an ambitious undertaking. 

In 1370 they didn’t exist.  By the 1400s they were dominant political players.  In 1471, they were eliminated.  I could never have done their unparalleled story justice.  Thankfully, Nathen Amin does.

The book begins by exploring the Beaufort’s shaky origins as the illegitimate children of John of Gaunt, third son of Edward III, and his scandalous mistress, Katherine Swynford.  It examines their rise to prominence under Richard II following their parents’ marriage and their own legitimisation. 

We then travel through the 1400s.  We see how they helped establish and protect the reign of their half-brother Henry IV and the Lancastrian dynasty.  We learn about their role at the heart of Henry V’s government. 

As the book draws to a close, we see how the family dominated the conflict we now call the ‘Wars of the Roses’.  Their devotion to the house of Lancaster never falters – a devotion they pay for with their total elimination of their house in the male line.

The accessible and fluid writing style makes it easy to bounce through the 285-page epic.  As we do, we’re again struck by how closely the history of the Beauforts mirrors the history of 15th century England.  At least one of them was at the centre of every major event.  They were the authors of victories.  They were culpable for failures.

But this book is more than just a run-through of familiar events.  Through focused research, intelligent guesswork and a hint of empathy the author explore the human dynamics and dilemmas that our subjects were doubtlessly faced with.  John Beaufort’s conflict between his loyalty to Richard II and his devotion to his half-brother Henry IV, is an early example.

The author is bold in his attempt to rescue some of the Beauforts from a distorted reputation.  He successfully sets Cardinal Beaufort’s decision to put Joan of Arc to death in its proper political context.  He questions the oft-quoted notion that the younger John Beaufort died at his own hand.

Some of the Beauforts are well known to history.  You simply can’t discuss Lancastrian kingship without discussing the Cardinal.  Both Johns are remembered as the immediate ancestors of the Tudors.  But this book sheds new light on the other two children to spring from Gaunt and Swynford’s union.  Thomas is established as a war hero who became perfectly apt at playing the political game.  Joan takes her place as a matriarch of the north.

There’s only one thing I would change about this book.  It should be a trilogy.  Each generation of the Beauforts deserve a book of their own.  But I’m a fanatic.  Publishers ultimately make the decision about what will sell.  There probably isn’t a market for three books on the dynasty.

The hard-back edition comes with a clean and striking cover.  Bearing the Beaufort arms, it looks grand on the bookshelf.  There’s also some lovely photography at the book’s centre.  The quality of the paper is a little on the low side.  But the reader will be instantly absorbed by the page’s content.  They’re unlikely to care what it’s printed on.

For too long the Beauforts have been reduced to a footnote in the Tudor’s origin story.  In truth, they were the power breakers of Lancastrian kingship and the shapers of a century.  It’s time they stepped forward and took their rightful place in the annuls of history.  ‘The House of Beaufort’ plays a ground-breaking role in ensuring that they do.    

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The staggering wealth of Margaret Beaufort




The young Margaret of Somerset became the greatest heiresses of her era; but her phenomenal wealth made her a pawn to politics.

I’m hardly the first Royal History Geek to be fascinated by Margaret Beaufort.  The matriarch’s struggles, hardships and triumphs are the things that epics are made of. 

A widowed mother at 13.  A fifth column in the final days of the Yorkist regime.  Against all the odds, her valiant efforts put her descendants on the throne.  They’ve remained there ever since.

But even before the Wars of the Roses broke out, Margaret was a figure of note to contemporaries.  Thanks to the early tragedy of her father’s death, the young Margaret inherited the bulk of the Beaufort fortune. 

But just how wealthy was the young Margaret of Somerset?  Did her wealth place her among the upper reaches of England’s nobility?  Had she been a man, would her fortune have made her a major military player in the dynastic wars that dominated her life?

As so often with Margaret Beaufort questions, we must turn to the academic study by Michael K Jones and Malcolm G Underwood.  In these pages, the young heiresses’ lands are explored in detail.  Thanks largely to the fortune of her late grandmother, who was co-heiress to the earldom of Kent, by 1450 it was clear that Margaret wielded a fortune of approximately £1000 a year.

On its own, this doesn’t tell us much.  Such a figure would be no great income today.  How far did a grand go in the 1450s? 

WATCH: my video discussing the wealth of Margaret Beaufort

To get some sense of an answer we must wind the clock back to seven years before Margaret’s birth.  Ahead of a new tax to fund the war with France, all landowners were assessed and their annual income calculated.  The findings have come down to us.

If Margaret were alive in 1436 and in possession of her fortune, she would have ranked among the top 20 landowners.  Given that there were about 60 titled families at any one time, this placed Margaret in the upper-third of noble society.  Those with lands to the value of £25 a year were deemed wealthy enough to tax.  Margaret’s income was 40 times that sum.

However, we need to be very, very careful about this.  Seven years is a long time.  Income from land was subject to the stewardship of the landlord and, at least to some extent, market forces. 

Furthermore, it’s clear from other evidence that the rich then – like the rich today – had gone to some length to disguise the extent of their wealth. 

As an indication however, it remains illuminating.  Chris Given-Wilson, the great late-medieval historian, estimates that an earl would typically enjoy £1000-1500 a year.  This is clearly the category that Margaret was in.  Nonetheless, money was not always so logically linked to title.  Some earls – such as Devon, Westmoreland and Suffolk – seemed to have less.  Some could claim considerably more.  There were also a handful of wealthy barons who enjoyed fortunes greater than some earls.

Margaret, however, did not have an income worthy of a major power broker.  If we take numbers from the 1436 list, add together the various titles and estates that were consolidated in the late 1430s and 1440s, we get a sense as to who the major players were at the beginning of the Wars of the Roses.  

The Duke of Buckingham enjoyed almost £3000 a year, the Duke of York £3500 and the mighty Earl of Warwick £4,400.   As stated earlier, these figures should be taken as conservative.  Studies on the Duke of Buckingham for example, suggest his income was double this sum – at least in some years.   

At the beginning of the Wars of the Roses, the Earl of Warwick was probably the richest noble in the land

Margaret’s wealth was both extraordinary and unremarkable.  What made it so significant was her sex.  It was unusual – thought not unique, even in her own time – for a woman to be in sole possession of such a staggering sum.  And that staggering sum, of course, was up for grabs by a future husband.

Under the common law of primogeniture, women would only inherit a parent’s fortune if they were devoid of a brother.  The eldest son would typically inherit the lot.  But when there was more than one daughter (and no son) the girls had to share it out equally.

Great landowners hated the idea of daughters inheriting.  This was not out of pure misogyny.  They loathed the thought of their estates being divvied up among daughters and used to bolster the ambitions of the lesser Lords their girls would marry.  As a result, many deployed legal devises – such as entails – to block female inheritance. 

For whatever reason, the Beauforts never deployed such a devise.  As her father’s sole surviving legitimate child, Margaret’s status as a major heiress was established within the first two years of her life.

Money was important to Margaret.  When her son seized the throne, she would be granted plenty more of it.  But this early fortune would lead to trauma.  Before she was seven years old, she was abandoned to the machinations of the medieval marriage market.  Her money, along with her trickle of royal blood, made her a pawn of politics from her earliest years.

Thank goodness that the matriarch of the Tudors was a born survivor.

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Friends, rivals, enemies? The relationship between Margaret Beaufort and Elizabeth Woodville

 

With the ‘White Princess’ currently broadcasting in America it’s important to take a more balanced look at the relationship between the so called ‘Red Queen’ and ‘White Queen.’

Being UK based I haven’t actually seen the ‘White Princess’ so I’m basing any comments on the book and what American friends have reported.

Sorry about the length and quality.  Am working on my skills!

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How did Margaret Beaufort feel about her marriage to Henry Stafford?

We’re continuing to ask questions about Margaret’s marriages – this time to Henry Stafford.

Is it me, or do I look particularly cute in this vid 😉

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Did Margaret Beaufort ever love Edmund Tudor?

I promised you a mini-series on Margaret Beaufort.  And a mini-series on Margaret Beaufort you will get.

Here’s my mutterings on her first (proper) marriage.

What think you all?

NB: I make two mistakes in this video – one I didn’t realise until I uploaded it.  Can you spot it?

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A new video mini-series on Margaret Beaufort

Hi geeks!  Currently ‘shooting’ a new video mini-series on the mother of the Tudors. Got some great questions in that I was going to answer all at once – but the video got way, way, way too long.

So here’s the intro.  Pretty soon all the clips about Margaret and her marriages should be up.  Hope you enjoy!

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